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I appreciate how you can integrate the present (Cher) with the past (St Thomas). Also your acute definition of agape love and how the interpretation of “pisteuo” was too weak and thus incorrect. I have read this post several times, as well as listening to Cher and referring to both John and first John. Thank you so much for this vital post.

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Is There Life After Love?

Cher may actually be the right place to begin, but I hear her question differently.

My wife has terminal cancer.

We have been together for ten years—not nearly enough—and we know that, barring something extraordinary, one of us is going to have to face the physical absence of the other.

So when I hear life after love, I am not thinking about surviving a relationship that ended.

I am asking a much more difficult question:

Does love itself end because the person I love dies?

This is where I struggle with your distinction between the temporal loves—eros, philia, storge—and agape, the Love that does not subside, if only because I am no longer sure they are separate "things".

I love my wife as my lover, my closest friend and my family, and somewhere along the way those different forms of loving became almost impossible to separate.

What we call agape is not another Love waiting above them on some vertical axis, but moreso agape is what they have been revealing all along, the dance floor itself.

There is something else I have been thinking about for years.

I once read the account of a deeply Christian man who had a near-death experience.

He described encountering Jesus, which did not particularly surprise me since that was within the scope of his cultural upbringing.

What stopped me was something he said almost casually afterward:

"The need for there to be a Jesus or Mother Mary fades."

That word "need" has stayed with me since.

I doubt he was saying Jesus disappeared or was somehow proven false, but I wonder whether Jesus was the form through which the experience became comprehensible and reassuring the representation of something encountered more directly.

What if the need for the representation faded because the fear that gave rise to the need had finally been adjudicated and replaced.

Fear had presented its case.

The experience answered it.

Maybe that is what happens when belief becomes knowing and perhaps something similar happens with human love.

My fear is not really that I will stop loving my wife, it is losing her.

I can lose the person whose hand I hold. I can lose her voice, her presence, our ordinary mornings together.

Those are real and powerful losses, and calling them “horizontal” does nothing to diminish their enormity nor can it undo what loving her has made of me.

So perhaps Cher's question contains something even larger than whether there is life after love.

Perhaps the question is whether there is ever really an after to love at all.

The form can disappear.

The person can leave our physical reach.

But if agape is what those years of eros, friendship, trust, tenderness, fear, sacrifice and companionship were gradually revealing, then perhaps agape is not the Love that replaces our human love when it ends.

Perhaps agape is what was there between us all along.

And if that is true, I don't need to believe that love survives death.

I only need to understand that death and love are answering different questions.

Death can end a life.

It can end a physical relationship.

But it cannot reach backward and erase what love has already made real.

Perhaps that is the beginning of what it means to say:

There is no life after Love.

There is simply Love.

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