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Dave Thaler's avatar

Lots to unpack here in a well thought out post.

I do agree with the author's warning about the abyss that the usual human response to hatred is answered with more hatred. This erpetuates the wound and there is genuine danger in becoming psychologically inhabited by the very thing we oppose.

I do, however, question his conclusion that there is “exactly one thing” that breaks this cycle, and that thing is forgiveness.

What if forgiveness is not the source of freedom at all

What if forgiveness is one possible consequence of something deeper, namely the freedom of mind.

Consider the question:

"How would your life change if you were free of the whims of your mind?

What would that feel like if you directed your mind and never, for a single moment, the other way around?

That changes the meaning of Nietzsche's abyss.

The danger now is not simply that I gaze into darkness, the danger begins when what I encounter there gains authority over my mind.

Someone harms me.

Anger arises.

Resentment arises... perhaps even hatred arises.

Those responses are real, but they are not commands.

The moment I recognize that distinction, another possibility appears where I can choose to experience what my mind produces without being governed by it.

That, to me, is freedom.

From that freedom alliws ne the choice andI may forgive or I may not.

I may seek reconciliation, restitution, separation, justice, compassion, or simply refuse to return the injury.

I do not have to forgive someone in order to refuse to hate them.

I do not have to forget the wound in order to stop allowing the wound to direct my life.

This is precisely why I hesitate over the author's movement from “beast” to “human” to “divine.”

Humans are not standing outside nature upon some spiritual ladder.

We remain equal participants in the same interdependent circle. Nature does not keep a moral ledger of apology and forgiveness.

I don't see relationships are disturbed and equilibrium is continually sought again.

We humans have placed words such as sorry, forgiveness, debt and redemption upon that process and sometimes mistake the symbol for the thing itself.

Perhaps “I am truly sorry” matters not because the words possess some intrinsic healing power, but because they can represent recognition, ergo, that I understand that something I did disturbed the relationship between us.

Perhaps forgiveness matters when it represents another movement in that I will no longer allow what happened between us to govern what I return to the world.

But neither word is the thing itself.

The deeper thing is agency.

The author writes that the vile person can come to “live rent-free” in the mind of the person who opposes him.

I agree, but eviction does not necessarily require forgiveness it only requires reclaiming ownership of the mind.

That is where the cycle actually breaks.

The abyss can show me hatred without requiring me to hate.

A wound can give me reasons for vengeance without requiring vengeance. Fear can demand protection without being allowed to determine my behaviour, and my mind can produce all of these things... and still I can CHOOSE.

Perhaps that is the freedom we have been searching for, not a mind emptied of darkness but a consciousness no longer obedient to everything the mind produces.

It is pethaps there that forgiveness finds its proper place.

It is no longer an obligation, no longer “the only way out,” and no longer a debt owed by the wounded to the person who wounded them.

It becomes one of many things a free mind may choose.

I bringbup the circle, that does not require me to forgive, its only requirement asks only what I will return to it.

And when the wound no longer determines the answer, I am free.

The author's model still contains a subtle “must” in that the action of "you must forgive" is a requirement to become free.

Mind freedom reverses the causality.

"When I am free, forgiveness becomes something I may choose, not something I must perform in order to become free.

free.

Thoughts?

Meg Salter's avatar

gazing into the abyss of my news feed. Feeling the tug of the algorithm and the abyss. Grateful for the reminder.

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